Comments on: Human Rights vs. Human Votes http://stephanfowler.com/2009/11/human-rights-vs-human-votes/ By Stephan Fowler Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:18:26 +0000 hourly 1 By: Stephan Powys http://stephanfowler.com/2009/11/human-rights-vs-human-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-73 Stephan Powys Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:42:25 +0000 http://stephanfowler.com/?p=2352#comment-73 Integration/assimilation implies that (at least) one of the parties has to change their culture or ideology. Should this change necessarily be the burden of the host? Again, by an argument from legitimacy (of the national over the foreign) it seems the immigrant culture bears the burden of change. By default, at least. You might disagree about the legitimacy of this claimed "legitimacy". Of course, it's a totally divisive question. Whose culture should prevail in the West? The answer pretty much defines your politics, these days. Integration/assimilation implies that (at least) one of the parties has to change their culture or ideology. Should this change necessarily be the burden of the host? Again, by an argument from legitimacy (of the national over the foreign) it seems the immigrant culture bears the burden of change. By default, at least.

You might disagree about the legitimacy of this claimed “legitimacy”. Of course, it’s a totally divisive question. Whose culture should prevail in the West? The answer pretty much defines your politics, these days.

]]> By: descemet http://stephanfowler.com/2009/11/human-rights-vs-human-votes/comment-page-1/#comment-72 descemet Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:25:53 +0000 http://stephanfowler.com/?p=2352#comment-72 I agree that this is a democratic decision and overriding it with human rights legislation is out of line. But what an appalling vote referendum result. It's the same argument as when Sarkozy floated banning the niqab. It's superficial tokenism when considered integration/assimilation policy is required. I agree that this is a democratic decision and overriding it with human rights legislation is out of line. But what an appalling vote referendum result. It’s the same argument as when Sarkozy floated banning the niqab. It’s superficial tokenism when considered integration/assimilation policy is required.

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